Underwood 158gr Lswchp 38 Spec +p Ammo Review

#i 01-06-2020, 12:24 AM

Received a new box of Winchester 38 Spl +P 158 gr LSWCHP X38SPD for utilize in my J frame Airweight.

I checked the cartridges and they accept no ringlet crimp!

Should I assume that Winchester is using some sort of sealant which sets the bullet in place in lieu of a whorl crimp?

It seems that each lot of this ammo has varying degrees of crimp, roll, taper, but this batch has me baffled why there is no apparent roll crimp is beyond me.

I may have to send them through my Redding Profile Crimp die to avoid any potential for bullet creep when shooting them.

Why tin can't Win/Rem/Fed use a firm scroll crimp on their 38 Spl +P 158 gr LHP loads as Buffalo Bore and Underwood? You would think that Win/Rem/Fed have specifications for their respective loads which specifies a business firm roll crimp.

Can't expect quality or consistency anymore from these guys...simply the smaller United states ammo makers (BB, Underwood) seem to go information technology.

#**four** 01-06-2020, 03:xvi AM

I checked another box I have from 2018 manufacture and they all accept a whorl crimp.

I have since ran the uncrimped rounds through my Lee FCD (1/2 plow)...the resultant crimp is very like to the crimp found on the Winchester 2018 industry rounds.

#5 01-06-2020, x:19 AM

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Originally Posted past 38SPL HV View Post

I checked the cartridges and they have no scroll crimp!

Should I assume that Winchester is using some sort of sealant which sets the bullet in place in lieu of a gyre crimp?

Got a kinetic bullet-puller?

#**seven** 01-06-2020, 12:25 PM

No, crimped them all. Federal did the same thing (no whorl crimp) to their LE 38 Spl +P 158 gr LSWCHP...these bullets would move in my 642 Airweight, but not in a Ruger GP100.

Doesn't Win/Fed know that the preponderous of 38 Special handguns today are smaller Airweight J frames and Ruger LCRs? They should crimp adequately to accommodate these lighter firearms...Buffalo Bore and Underwood seems to understand.

#x 01-06-2020, 06:05 PM

I recall I'd switch to Speer Short Butt Gold Dot ammo unless you go a skillful response.

Or, utilise BB or Underwood ammo.

#12 01-07-2020, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Texas Star View Post

I think I'd switch to Speer Brusk Barrel Gilt Dot ammo unless you lot get a good response.

Or, use BB or Underwood ammo.

Or Federal 130g HST.

#13 01-08-2020, 01:52 AM

Well, went to the range in the afternoon today, loaded 5 in my S&W 642, shot four, and the fifth unfired round didn't have any discernible creep. This is after I crimped them in the Lee FCD, one-half turn. They are good to become and the crimps look all uniform afterwards the FCD. By the way, forgot to say that standard velocity Remington 38 Spl 158 gr lrn exhibited no creep...they never do since they accept a much firmer roll crimp.

I as well have a box of Remington 38 Spl +P 158 gr LHP awaiting some testing. They too came with no crimp (2019 industry) and I ran them through the Lee FCD this evening. Guess this will be the protocol when using these type of loads in my Airweight...run them through the Lee FCD if they take no crimp. I'chiliad due to supply up on some of these "FBI" loads soon and I'thousand curious to see how they volition arrive. I doubt that Rem/Win/Fed will address my concerns with their manufactory ammo so I'll just crimp them in the time to come if they are not roll crimped.

#**fourteen** 01-08-2020, 09:02 AM

I bought 250 new .41 Magazine rounds from LAX and had the same issue.

I gave them to a friend who re-seated and re-crimped all 250 rounds for me.

I said that he felt the bullets could have moved frontward from the casing from the recoil causing the cylinder to jam.

Information technology took forever trying to get a reply from LAX. Eventually subsequently several emails and phone calls they contacted me by email but by and then my friend had already taken intendance of it.

I doubt that I will ever buy anything from LAX again.

#15 01-08-2020, 10:nineteen AM

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Originally Posted by 38SPL HV View Post

Well, went to the range in the afternoon today, loaded v in my S&W 642, shot iv, and the fifth unfired round didn't accept any discernible creep. This is later on I crimped them in the Lee FCD, one-half turn. They are proficient to go and the crimps look all uniform after the FCD. By the way, forgot to say that standard velocity Remington 38 Spl 158 gr lrn exhibited no creep...they never do since they take a much firmer coil crimp.

I as well accept a box of Remington 38 Spl +P 158 gr LHP awaiting some testing. They too came with no crimp (2019 manufacture) and I ran them through the Lee FCD this evening. Guess this will be the protocol when using these type of loads in my Airweight...run them through the Lee FCD if they take no crimp. I'm due to supply upwards on some of these "FBI" loads soon and I'thou curious to see how they will get in. I incertitude that Rem/Win/Fed will accost my concerns with their factory ammo so I'll merely crimp them in the future if they are not scroll crimped.

Allow me encounter if I've got this straight.

Y'all bought manufacturing plant ammunition....

You didn't like the way information technology looked...

You tested it...

You found it functioned properly...

Soooo you modified information technology anyhow....

Is it possible the manufacturing plant knew what it was doing?.

#16 01-09-2020, 11:42 PM

No, pls reread the string. They were non crimped as purchased. I put a crimp on them with the Lee FCD, and so tested and in that location was no bullet creep in the Airweight. I was non going to hazard shooting them without a crimp in the Airweight for fear of the bullet jumping the crimp; hence, I ran them kickoff through the Lee FCD.

I'm lamentable, I'1000 probably over complicating things...most exist the engineer in me.